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	<title>Comments on: The Dark Side of the Light Chasers &#8211; Episode&#160;#45</title>
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		<title>By: PeterHowie</title>
		<link>http://tv.philosophersnotes.com/373/the-dark-side-of-the-light-chasers-episode-45#comment-4763</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterHowie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I haven&#039;t read much that focuses on this area. It is also missed out on in much of the happiness literature: that is how negative ideas seek negative confirmation in the data we absorb and focus on, in ourselves.  
 
Rejecting greatness is one area and that can be easily made into a big arena and lots of fanfare. Reading or hearing about this area can be uplifting, inspiring and a few other things as well. On a smaller more human note though, hearing about how I am seen to be friendly by others or seen as helpful by others can also be rejected because I don&#039;t believe it. I need to write something on this area. :) 
 
I am thinking of the Ladder of Inference illuminated well by Peter Senge in his Fifth Discipline Fieldbook as I consider this stuff.  
 
Cheers for the moment 
 
Peter in Brisbane 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I haven&#039;t read much that focuses on this area. It is also missed out on in much of the happiness literature: that is how negative ideas seek negative confirmation in the data we absorb and focus on, in ourselves.  </p>
<p>Rejecting greatness is one area and that can be easily made into a big arena and lots of fanfare. Reading or hearing about this area can be uplifting, inspiring and a few other things as well. On a smaller more human note though, hearing about how I am seen to be friendly by others or seen as helpful by others can also be rejected because I don&#039;t believe it. I need to write something on this area. <img src='http://tv.philosophersnotes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I am thinking of the Ladder of Inference illuminated well by Peter Senge in his Fifth Discipline Fieldbook as I consider this stuff.  </p>
<p>Cheers for the moment </p>
<p>Peter in Brisbane</p>
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		<title>By: BrianJohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey peter: we talk about this a bit more in the Note (rejecting our greatness, for example) and I appreciate your awesome distinctions!  
 
cheers! 
 
-bri 
 
p.s. any great books you recommend on the subject? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey peter: we talk about this a bit more in the Note (rejecting our greatness, for example) and I appreciate your awesome distinctions!  </p>
<p>cheers! </p>
<p>-bri </p>
<p>p.s. any great books you recommend on the subject?</p>
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		<title>By: PeterHowie</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeterHowie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brian, 
 
Thanks for this work you are doing.  
 
I have one small niggardly thing around shadow that I believe is relevant here. Shadow is certainly things that we have rejected. However the shadow is often seen as the less salubrious aspects of our personality. Sometimes this is true. However often it is more simply about areas of our functioning that have been avoided or not paid attention to rather than avoided or rejected. And these areas are often to do with what is and what isn&#039;t avoided/rejected/frowned upon by our culture, our community our family or our peers. So one person might reject their capacity for poetry because in their family this was considered not part of being a man. Another person might reject hardness and decisiveness because they lived in a culture where the opposite was valued. 
 
I make this point because the areas that are seen as shodow are so often, and I believe incorrectly, named as &quot;dark&quot; things or things that we have ruthless repressed. Thus the shadow is all about the area that Forbidden Planet visited. Our inner desired to kill, rape, beat, be full of revenge, be sociopathic, ruthless, self interested - which can also be true as these are culturally usually rejected (unless born into a war torn culture such as the Sudan or Eritrea) when as often he shadow is about areas of self acceptance, acceptance of others and a whole slew of areas that are really usually seen as &quot;light&quot; areas. 
 
Anyway I am relating to your initial intro and this may all be covered in which case I beg mea culpa as this is a short response in the short notes section.  
 
Cheers 
 
Peter in Brisbane, Australia </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian, </p>
<p>Thanks for this work you are doing.  </p>
<p>I have one small niggardly thing around shadow that I believe is relevant here. Shadow is certainly things that we have rejected. However the shadow is often seen as the less salubrious aspects of our personality. Sometimes this is true. However often it is more simply about areas of our functioning that have been avoided or not paid attention to rather than avoided or rejected. And these areas are often to do with what is and what isn&#039;t avoided/rejected/frowned upon by our culture, our community our family or our peers. So one person might reject their capacity for poetry because in their family this was considered not part of being a man. Another person might reject hardness and decisiveness because they lived in a culture where the opposite was valued. </p>
<p>I make this point because the areas that are seen as shodow are so often, and I believe incorrectly, named as &quot;dark&quot; things or things that we have ruthless repressed. Thus the shadow is all about the area that Forbidden Planet visited. Our inner desired to kill, rape, beat, be full of revenge, be sociopathic, ruthless, self interested - which can also be true as these are culturally usually rejected (unless born into a war torn culture such as the Sudan or Eritrea) when as often he shadow is about areas of self acceptance, acceptance of others and a whole slew of areas that are really usually seen as &quot;light&quot; areas. </p>
<p>Anyway I am relating to your initial intro and this may all be covered in which case I beg mea culpa as this is a short response in the short notes section.  </p>
<p>Cheers </p>
<p>Peter in Brisbane, Australia</p>
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		<title>By: BrianJohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey michael:  
 
thx so much for your kind words! really appreciate it and excited to share everything else I&#039;m working on!  
 
-bri 
 
smiling at my attempt to get some of ken&#039;s essential wisdom across in 10 minutes and appreciating your appreciation! :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey michael:  </p>
<p>thx so much for your kind words! really appreciate it and excited to share everything else I&#039;m working on!  </p>
<p>-bri </p>
<p>smiling at my attempt to get some of ken&#039;s essential wisdom across in 10 minutes and appreciating your appreciation! <img src='http://tv.philosophersnotes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Pollock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Pollock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Brian. Just discovered you through Tripp Lanier, and I have to say, these videos are amazing. You are amazing. I&#039;m not meaning to gush, but the way you explained Ken Wilber&#039;s stuff for example ... wow. I&#039;ve yet to find anyone else who was able to bring his ideas and theories down to a level that&#039;s truly useful to folks. 
 
These videos are a great example of marketing that makes a difference. 
 
Can&#039;t wait to start making my way through the full version of PN.  
 
Consider me a fellow traveler on the path, as well as a new fan. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Brian. Just discovered you through Tripp Lanier, and I have to say, these videos are amazing. You are amazing. I&#039;m not meaning to gush, but the way you explained Ken Wilber&#039;s stuff for example ... wow. I&#039;ve yet to find anyone else who was able to bring his ideas and theories down to a level that&#039;s truly useful to folks. </p>
<p>These videos are a great example of marketing that makes a difference. </p>
<p>Can&#039;t wait to start making my way through the full version of PN.  </p>
<p>Consider me a fellow traveler on the path, as well as a new fan.</p>
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